Liege Car Club

21 Feb '17

Northern Trial 2017

Last weekend five intrepid Liege drivers had entered the “Fell side Auto Club’s Northern Trial Ray Ferguson, Richard Irvine, John Charles Rodger Goldthorpe, and Trevor Wood. One driver was M.I.A. Rodger had failed to show, so it was left to the four drivers to put up a show for the club. The trial was set amongst the rolling hills and Pine forests around the Town of Wigton in Cumbria and the club had set out a 60 mile, 16 section course for the Bikes and cars to tackle. A 200 mile - 400 mile trip from the Southern Softies brought us to the Fantastic Start venue on the outskirts of Wigton. The weather report for the weekend was not pleasant at all driving rain high winds   NICE, well prepared for the worst we all set off with the Bikes off at 08.00am and followed by the cars at 08.20 The weather promised never really came but there was a lot of wind, light showers and mist, The Sections were a mixture of extremely deep and rocky gullies and rooted forest sections to Stoney forest tracks, the drive round was a really pleasant drive through tracks and bridal ways through forest fire break roads, A lot of very aggressive driving was required by all to get to the no. 1 Boards. In the death Charles Knifton took the overall honour’s in his VW Scorpion Class 8 car on 13 marks lost Followed by David Golightly in his beautiful Morton – Brett Car in class 5  also on 13 marks lost Dean Partington Wasp slid into 3rd Place on 15. Well the Four intrepid Liege drivers that Endured the Mist, Wind, Rain, bent wishbones, running out of fuel, stopping on the wrong restart line, bent wheel rims finally finished at around 3 -30pm after a great trial to tuck into shepherd’s pie and chips and peas, Gravy and a cuppa. The Provisional Results placed us Trevor dropped 29 marks to take the Class Win and 5th overall, Ray took 2nd in class and 8th overall, John Charles took 4th in class and 10th overall, and finally Richard picked up 5th in class and 12 overall, there will be a steward’s inquiry with Rodger at a later date. Well done to all that ventured up to Wigton and a big thanks to the Fell side Auto Club for putting on yet another great event . It now repair the Damage and onto the Falcon Club March Hare trial on March 5th
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14 Nov '16

Keith Nicholls Trophy

The results for the Keith Nicholls trophy are calulated each year with one point awarded for every hill cleared on the three MCC trials together with one point for each fastest special test.
This year the scores were as follows
Dick Glossop             45
Rob Haworth             39
Trevor Wood              36
Barry Redmayne        32
Mark Endley              23
Ray Ferguson            11  
John Charles             10
Roger Goldthorpe       8        
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08 Oct '16

Liege Trip To Liege

Aiden Spink has been Touring Europe in his Liege

Victoria and I have recently returned from our most ambitious adventure in Huxley to date, Warwickshire to the Ardennes region of Belgium, via the Goodwood Revival, France and Bruges. We were staying close enough to Liege to get an obligatory photo with a Liege sign, and we did go to Liege for a day but there isn't really much there. The Ardenne region of Belgium had some excellent views, roads and beer, and an ideal place to explore in a Liege. We had or fair share of reliability issues, in part down to the heat when driving through France but also electrical and throttle cables. All in all it was a great adventure and has fuelled ideas for more.
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28 Aug '16

Ever more powerful Liege

The following pictures show how Barry has somehow managed to squeeze a 1.6 litre 16 valve suzuki engine into a Liege and the bonnet still closes.barry_modified_car.jpg
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17 Jul '16

For the Liege Owner who thought they had Everything!

Bespoke Liege Neon signs available

Kevin Clark has come up with the perfect present for the Liege Owner who has everything as set out in his email below.  If you are interested I will pass it on to Kevin or better still let Kevin know directly.
Anyhow, I had spoken to a chap at the Thirlestane castle event who does customised car signs. £31 for the signs as per the attached photo. They come with either 240v or 12v adapters plus a choice of colours to illuminate. Let me know if you are interested for wider club members and I'll copy to him by return. Just a bit of fun, and I thought they were priced really well given he needed to design etc.


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08 Jun '16

Thirlestone Castle Car Show

The following was sent to me on Sunday by Kevin Clark
I had a bit of success today at a car show run by the Borders Vintage Automobile Club.
It's the largest car show in Scotland - think there were 800+ cars and 5000+ attendees.
Anyhow, 015 got a very welcomed 2nd in the Kit car class, some photos attached. A very nice NG came first. As per last year's show I attended, lots of interest in the Liege.


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17 May '16

Liege on the Yorkshire Dales’ Classic Trial 8th May 2016

       I was looking forward to this year’s Yorkshire Dales Classic Trial for two reasons.  Firstly on account of ‘non starting’ last year’s trial due to a recalcitrant engine and secondly, it is my local classic trial. Local in that I do not have to spend a night or two away from home and can drive there and back in the same day. However, Yorkshire is a large county to cross and the Reliant engined Liege not being the fastest of cars means that I have to be up and about at 4-00am. I picked up Alan my bouncer from Bridlington and we drove over the Wolds with the rising sun on our backs.  Dropping off the Wolds on to the Vale of York we descended into mist that persisted in varying degrees of thickness until we arrived at Pateley Bridge where the sun reappeared from the gloom. We filled up with petrol, presented the car for scrutineering and signed on. All went smoothly and there were no issues other than having to produce my class 7c ‘Accepted Specification’. The sun was hot and it was an unusual experience changing the wheels clad in T-shirts. There were six Liege entered Steve Bennington, John Charles, Julian Lack (Jules) Trevor Wood and Myself in class 7 and Graham Redmayne in class 8.  The first section ‘Watergate 1’, I have cleared in the past on the Ilkley Trial so I had no worries. Off we went through the rocky stream, up the climb and stopped among the rocks in the restart box. When signalled to start I dropped the clutch and with lots of wheel spin and tyre smoke we slid gently backwards for a 6 as did Jules. Despondently we moved on to ‘Watergate 2’ where we achieved a clear. Cheered by this but still smarting we pressed on to the Strid Wood complex, all be it at a slow pace as we encountered myriads of cyclists. ‘Strid Wood 1’ is a gulley with a step half way through that is usually a stopper. Cars that fail at the step, dig deep into the soft ground with spinning wheels and in so doing lower the ground level, the result being a step of increasing height as the trial progresses until it is beyond the ground clearance of most cars. I have had mixed fortunes here but today we sailed through for a clear as did all the Liege cars. ‘Strid Wood 2’ has not been kind to me in past. On a previous attempt I ran wide on the turn at the top of the climb finishing on the bank with the car almost on the point of tipping over and with my hand pressed firmly onto the ground to prevent myself from falling out. With this in mind I was too cautious in my approach and came to rest beached at the top of the climb with spinning wheels and lots of tyre smoke for a 7. John and Graham also picked up 7’s here John’s 7 the result of the engine cutting out.  ‘Strid Wood 3’ looked a doddle of a climb in the dry conditions and off I set only to find that instead of following the markers I had followed the tyre track that took me to the right. I realised my mistake but I was too far right to get back on course and scored a GCSE (gross careless silly error). By now to say I was glum with my performance would be an understatement. Three lash ups out of five sections on easy ground was an abysmal performance. 
   The sunshine however put a different complexion on the day and as we were out of contention by now we could enjoy the magnificent scenery and the camaraderie of our fellow competitors and marshals. So off we set in heightened spirits for Hawpike. ‘Hawpike 1’ sets off through a small stream, passes through a gateway in a dry stone wall and then climbs up between two trees before turning right into a gully with a restart half way along. In the past this has caught us out but in today’s conditions it caused us no problems as we pulled off the restart and out of the section. ‘Hawpike 2’ is a straightforward Climb up a grassy hillside that can cause problems in the wet but today it was an easy drive to the top. We then headed across the fields to ‘Highfield Farm’ the first timed section. From the start there was an S bend drop into a gully and an opening through a dry stonewall before climbing up the other side on to the flat and on to the finish all with marker cones placed at intervals and the usual stop, reverse, stop. A bonus on reaching the end of this section is provided by the farmer who will inflate your tyres from a compressor driven by his tractor ready for the tarmac run to Peel’s Wood.  ‘Peel’s Wood1’ is a gentle climb along a grass track with a restart half way along and finishing with a sharp right hand turn up a steep bank. It looks very tame but is usually very slippery and catches many out; indeed it isn’t always possible to get to the start without assistance but none of these problems presented themselves today in the dry conditions. The restart however had been moved off the track and set on the side of the hill in very soft soil. We managed to pull away from the restart with much flinging of soil to go clear. Not all got away and there was the added problem of sliding down the hillside and striking the markers and Trevor picked up a 5 here. There was a deviation for Graham in class 8 who went clear. ‘Peel’s Wood 2’ was the second timed test. It was set out on slightly rising ground with the usual ABC arrangement. On then to the lunch halt where we had a compulsory half-hour stop. The venue was Fewston Farm Shop and we made use of their café, fortified we were all set for the afternoon. After lunch ‘Sward Point 1’ was our next section starting with a climb up a bank into the wood where we then twisted between the trees before the final climb and sharp right turn on to a cross track for a clear. ‘Sward Point 2’ is a climb over exposed roots among the trees with a restart. Again we were clear but in the past when the roots are wet and muddy we have not been able to get away from the start. Graham collected a 1 here.       We now had another road run to Wilson’s Wood. ‘Wilson’s Wood 1’ a climb up a track among the trees was new to me and caused no problem for us. ‘Wilson’s Wood 2’ was again new to me and was another climb among the trees but with a restart. We pulled away from the restart and out of the section for another clear. Next up was ‘Brimham Lodge’ a grassy slope turning leftwards and steepening all the time. The grass is usually wet and finding grip can be difficult but today it posed no problems for us as we went clear. With no fails since Strid Wood I began to curse my feeble performance on the opening few sections as we headed for our penultimate section. ‘Bluebell Wood’ was another new section to me and we had a short wait here for our turn. John Bell assisted by David Toft and Rupert North had managed to find the only two patches of mud in the Yorkshire Dales and plonked the restart right in the middle of one, the second patch they had found deeper into the wood and had arranged for us to drive into this, turn right and climb a greasy bank to the finish. We got away from the restart and after bruising, (to use a culinary term) our way through the pungent wild garlic came to a stop in the second patch of mud for a 2 as did Jules. John managed a 3 and Steve and Trevor didn’t make it off the restart and gathered up 6 points apiece. Graham in class 8 had a deviation here and picked up a 4.  Fails and clears all have to return by way of the start and as I turned around I became stuck, Alan my bouncer who was delighted that he had kept clean all day had to get out and push and in so doing became blathered in mud just as per usual, so no change there! As we left for the final section the queue had grown, always a problem when sections are exited via the start. ‘Longside Wood’ is a long climb on a track through trees turning left at the top along a ledge with boggy bits and rising gradually before turning sharp right up a bank to the finish. I have cleared this section once before but usually only get part way up the climb. Today though, with dry conditions, we flew up the climb and on to the ledge but as I bounced over a log we came to a halt with a screaming engine and no drive. The bounce over the log had knocked us out of gear. Normally I would have been very vexed, but as we had performed so badly in the morning it didn’t seem to matter. We needed a push to get us out of the boggy bit and then continued on to the end of the section, out of the wood and on to the descent with the most stunning view over Ramsgill and Gouthwaite Reservoir towards Pateley Bridge. Jules lost power on the climb and collected 8 points. The reason being was dirt in the carb. Trevor didn’t make the end and collected a 4. Back on the road we had a slow drive to the finish following a bus that needed to stop every few yards to allow on-coming traffic to pass by. Once back at Pateley Bridge we filled up with petrol, signed off and changed the wheels. Alan wasn’t sure if it was better to change wheels in freezing cold, sleet and rain or exhausted and frazzled in baking hot sunshine. I know my preference. When the results appeared Steve had gained the class 7 win and 7th overall WITH a Reliant engine and Firestone SM MKII tyres! Perhaps the way forward is to abandon the Suzuki engines and fancy tyres! I managed to collect the most points in class 7 but failed to achieve the most points overall!    
 Queuing for Strid Wood 3. Roger, Trevor, John, Jules and Steve                                            
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04 May '16

Liege 21st Quiz

The questions with answers from the quiz

Liege 21 questions
1                    In which year was the Liege launched at Alexandra Palace?  -  1995 
2                    What is the capacity of the Liege/Reliant fuel tank?  -  5.9galls or 27L 
3                    What is the total number of holes in a Liege cast alloy road wheel? -  20 
4                    From what car are the Liege external door handles sourced? - MGB GT 
5                    What steering mechanism does a liege utilise?  -  Rack & pinion 
6                    Where was the Liege factory located?  -  Craycombe Farm, Fladbury 
7                    What is the ratio of the Liege/Suzuki differential?  -  5.1:1 
8                    In Classic Trials what class do factory spec. cars compete in?  -  Class 7 
9                    What colour is Liege Number One?  -  Red 
10                By what name is the Liege sun shade/shower cover known?  -  Bimini 
11                What is the size of a Liege cast alloy road wheel?  -  3.5J x 16 
12                What make are the original Liege tyres?  -  Avon 
13                The Reliant 850 engine comes equipped with an S.U. carburretor, what do the letters                         S.U. stand for?  -  Skinners Union 
14                Where is the voltage stabiliser located on a Reliant/Liege?  -  Back of the speedometer 
15                Which Liege holds the highest elevation record?  -  Number 60 (Mark & 
                    Charlie Worsfold) 
16                From what car is the Suzuki 993 engine sourced?  -  Suzuki Swift 
17                What is the capacity of one Suzuki 993 cylinder?  -  331cc 
18                What make of motorcycle does Peter Davis race?  -  Ducatti 
19                How many rear wheel cylinders does a Liege have?  -  2 
20                Who was first to be awarded the Keith Nichols Trophy in 2003. - Simon Robson 
21                How many cars have won a gold medal on MCC Trials -  12   

Tie breaker What was the population of Liege in 1995? -  192,393 (nearest wins)
Thanks to Colin Marshall for producing the quiz questions and then marking the sheets.
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04 May '16

Swiss Roll Tour July 2015

Colin Marshall's write up from the Swiss Roll Tour

The Swiss Roll Tour – July 2015   Organised by Mark Worsfold for Liege Car Club.   Four cars only because Roger & Cathy couldn’t make it this time.   Day 1  Tuesday 7th July. We headed for Mark & Charlie’s house in Lewes, dodging heavy showers on the way.  Rob & Elizabeth had already arrived and we all enjoyed tasty Spag Bol cooked by Mark and then off to Newhaven docks for the Ferry.  Quite a long wait in a brisk south westerly before finally boarding.  A Choppy Crossing!  We shared a cabin which R & E had wisely booked.  They must have been well hacked off when my phone started texts from French networks in the middle of the night.   Day 2 Wednesday 8th July. By 6am we were on the road, immediately taking a different route from M & C heading for our first night in Vitry.  On the way we saw several war cemeteries, stopping at one where we saw hundreds of headstones for British soldiers killed in the first war.  Interestingly the German soldiers in their own area only had wooden crosses.  Then through the Champagne  vineyards including Moet & Chandon down to the Marne valley.  Reaching Conde-Sur-Marne with the temperature in the high 20’s we parked up on their promenade for half an hour’s kip.  Arriving at Hotel De la Poste at 2.30pm it was all locked up and deserted.  A French chap in a Caterham parked close to us in the square and came over for a chat and then around 3pm the hotel opened up and we booked in.  M & C were next to arrive followed shortly by Mark & Ginny who had travelled down from Calais through heavy rain.  R & E arrived and we all headed for the square for an evening drink.  Circulating Mocicks and Lambo’s buzzed past as we contemplated the menu only to be told that everything was off!  M W had previously checked out another restaurant close by and there we enjoyed an excellent meal.   Day 3 Thursday 9th July. Another good bash, this time to Issenheim.  Hot and sunny all day we arrived having crossed  the Ballons des Voges range enjoying our first mountain pass.  At Hotel A La Demi Lune we found M & C’s and M & G’s cars already parked.  Having secured our room we wandered up the road looking for the bar they were in, which was actually down the road.  Finally joining the others for a drink before returning to the Hotel for our evening meal.   Day 4 Friday 10th July.  Today we all ran together to see the most amazing Schulmpf Collection at the Cite de L’automobile at Mulhouse.  I’ve had a thing about Panhards since I saw them at the Earls Court Motor Show in the 50’s and so it was a treat for me to see all the models on display.  More Bugatti’s than you could shake a starting handle at of course and hundreds of other rare cars all in one huge main hall with specialist groups in smaller adjoining rooms. On then to Hotel Ambassador in Solothurn Switzerland.  We knew there were parking places behind the hotel but when we arrived they were all taken.  Fortunately the Manager spotted us and kindly moved his Jag elsewhere so that we could park in his slot.  R & E were able to share the space by parking behind us.  After meeting in a local bar we crossed the river into the old town where we enjoyed an Italian evening meal.  The cobbled streets with traditional dwellings, fountains, statues, clocks, archways and municipal buildings, all stunning and the atmosphere intoxicating.  Crossing back over the river with a gravelly voiced band playing by the bridge we returned to the Hotel (almost) before dividing genders, five of us returning to a waterside bar for a nightcap.   Day 5 Saturday 11th July.  We drove through Switzerland to Interlaken and the Alps.  On to Lauterbrunnen and the Hotel Steinbock.  Dramatic mountain views of  The Eiger, Jungfrau and others that R & E knew the names of as they know the area well. Our rooms were not in the main hotel but in the annex over the Co-op (Kwop) opposite.  Afternoon activity was almost car free, involving a short cable car ride up a mountain and an incredible scooter ride back down the narrow tracks to the start.  On the way down Charlie was unfortunate enough to twice fall into icy water, both times being rescued by Rob! In the evening we all met up for a cooling beer before walking on towards the restaurant that R & E had arranged at the top of the village.  On the way Rob suggested we stop for another beer and somehow I was persuaded to drink a very large Jägermeister.  On to the restaurant where we ordered beer and our meals.  I had my first (and last) Rostti and a beer and was given another Jägermeister, then helped home semi-conscious by Ginny.   Day 6 Sunday 12th July.  A busy day on the roads, being a Sunday, we were constantly being passed by bikers out for thrills. Our route to Surcuolm took in the best of Swiss roads and scenery culminating with a tortuous twisting climb up to our overnight accommodation the Hotel Surselva.  Perched high up on the mountainside overlooking the valley and the mountain range beyond, each individually designed room having doors out to the veranda with breathtaking views.  Our host Chris, characterised as gushingly incompetent, saw to our every need (needed or not) but came to the rescue when R & E’s car needed attention at the local garage.   Day 7 Monday 13th July.  Today our target was Stelvio in Italy.  More fabulous roads and scenery with a truly hairy  climb up from Santa Maria across the border to the top of Stelvio at 2,760 metres.  Spectacular views of snow covered peaks and the 15 mile pass below us, hot dog and burger sellers, souvenir shops and throngs of leather clad bikers and lycra clad cyclers all taking in their first experience of the 4 Lieges amongst them.  Excellent dinner at the restaurant opposite our hotel.   Day 8 Tuesday 14th July.   M & C, M & G rose early for a bash down and back up the pass before breakfast. Then a brief excursion off road to establish a new altitude record before individually setting off down the other side of the pass heading south west towards the lakes.  More spectacular driving and temperatures in the mid 30’s we re-entered Switzerland to take advantage of the best route passing through St Moritz down to the ferry to take us across Lake Como to our fabulous lakeside hotel at Cadenabbia.  Splendid evening meal at an open air restaurant a short walk from the hotel where entrecote was a popular choice (as usual).   Day 9 Wednesday 15th July.  Another ferry crossing over Lake Maggiore before driving into the industrial lowlands of northern Italy, necessary to pass through on our way back into the mountains at the top of the Aosta valley to Hotel Bellevue, a Swiss Chalet with views across the valley to the mountains beyond.  Our host Piere and his wife Laura spoke no English but he shouted loud enough for us to understand and we enjoyed good food and drink throuout the evening with no suggestion of payment.  The following morning they came to realise that no one had really kept a record of what we had consumed and frantic phone calls were made to the various staff involved to establish what we owed.   Day 10 Thursday 16th July.  Up and over the St Bernard pass to re-enter Switzerland on our journey north.  We took a detour round Lac de Jou stopping at Le pont for tea before crossing the border to our Ibis hotel in Pontarlier, France.  Here we enjoyed the luxury of air conditioned rooms and memory foam mattresses.  Staff spoke good English and we were well fed on the patio.   Day 11 Friday 17th July.  The start of our long haul north on our way home.  200+ miles to our motel accommodation at Challons, keeping to country roads through vast fields of crops with combines and tractors like ships crossing an ocean.  Our meal at the Poivre Rouge was spoiled somewhat by poor service with a determination to miss-communicate.  The pricey wine I rejected was from a bottle opened days earlier and kept in an oven.  Mark E’s steak was also rejected as it was served very well done and not rare as ordered.  Back to the motel bar for a nightcap before saying farewell to R & E and M & G who were setting off early in the morning to meet their channel crossings.  Maggie and I made our way to the coast to enjoy the last of the sun and warmth before meeting up with M & C to board the evening ferry home.   Thunderstorms tomorrow!   Colin    
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23 Feb '16

Northern Trial 2016

The Northern Trial, as its name suggests, is a long way North.  So far in fact that at one time I could see Scotland and Scottish bank notes were used but the Trial had been recommended by those who have taken part so this year we entered along with 6 other Liege including Richard and Ollie Irvine who had driven their Liege all the way from Poole.  The weather was cold wet and windy but that’s is to be expected from Cumbria in February.  The trial itself started in Wigton and it was not far to the first hill which was severely pot holed and you needed to pick your way around them quite carefully.  As usual even though we all had different start times by the second hill Liege were starting to congregate and run together.  The hills were challenging some were manageable others so slippery that none of us seemed to be able to conquer them.  I will not try to list each hill but Julian Lack won Class 7 and Trevor Wood was not far behind in second.  Roger Goldthorpe and Richard Irvine both reached the Finish whereas our car appeared not to have properly dried out from the Exeter and developed an electrical gremlin which led to us having to retire before the end.  I took a few photos which I have placed in a new gallery and a few are reproduced below to give a feel for what was an excellent trial.
Waiting for the second hill.
So well camouflaged you would hardly know ther were there at all.
Not the result of a collision but on "Little Cock Up" the nose fell off under the car, the good news is the gold badge was undamaged!
 Not a breakdown but an opportunity for communal glove drying whilst quing for a hill
 Julian's car on its way to another victory.
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